Leads for a network marketing business?
31.October, 2008
I have looked through hundreds of sites on mlm leads, i have bought some leads with no outcomes. Are there really any lead generating sites out there that work? If there are what are they?
Hi,
Wow! I'm glad you asked about MLM, aka Network Marketing.
Freakanomics is right - network marketing is a hoax. Get the book:. Freakonomics [Revised and Expanded]: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Hardcover) by Steven D. Levitt
Check out this book at your local library.How to Take Advantage of the People Who Are Trying to Take Advantage of You: 50 Ways to Capitalize on the System (Paperback)
by Joseph SB Morse
Be informed. Practice due diligence. Demand proof. Proof that can be verified. Bank statements, tax returns, etc.
Get this book at your local libary or Amazon: (False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes (Paperback)
by Robert L. Fitzpatrick .
Only the most virulent, ruthless, aggressive, sweet-talking con artists are successful at Network Marketing. You have to be willing to fool a lot of people into thinking you have a plan for financial Nirvana and they will talk a lot about altruism and spirituality and how working an ordinary job is a dead end They call it Just Over Broke (JOB). In reality, you will go broke buying worthless MLM products at sky-high prices.
It's like a chain letter, a pyramid, a Ponzi scheme. Don't believe people when they say it isn't. They lie through their teeth. MLM is a snake-pit of liars and those that aren't lying are hopelessly misinformed.
Read this before you waste any money on Network Marketing: (http://skepdic.com/mlm.html).
You will hear a lot of arguments that make network marketing sound like the Holy Grail of home based "businesses". Like comparing apples to computer chips. You will always hear some very convincing arguments that it is legitimate - every one is a con and illustrates how creative con artists are.
The are very CON-vincing - that's convincing with a capital C for calamnity, a big O for obnoxious, and N for nauseous. There are no nuggets in this scam. See: (http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mlm.html).
Here are the 10 biggest lies of network marketing (http://www.mlmwatch.org/01General/10lies.html); read the truth and steer clear of this world-wide hoax.
MLM is the biggest scam in the world and it is going global with companies like Tiens.
They will tell you that all you need is fresh leads from a good mailing list and people will sign up faster than a NASCAR race car.
Are you kidding me? Fresh MLM leads! Don't fall for that.
Get real.
Remember, There's a sucker born every minute…and two to take 'em. Burn that into your brain.
If their leads are so good, where is their money-back guarantee? Leadbakery is just one example of a list seller and they are even worse than the MLM companies.
Listen! There has never been a successful course or book on MLM success - all boil down to this:
talk to lots of people with questions like "If I could show you a way to make lots of money quick, would you be interested?" or "If I could show you a sure-fire way to build a financial fortress that would protect you forever, would you be iinterested?" or "Social Security is not secure. Build a MLM company and retire rich".
That's the first warning sign that something is rotten in Denmark.
Yes, some will sign up, but unless you are a "heavy hitter" and use illegal methods to trap people into becoming distributors, honest people cannot succeed at this.
Do you know why these courses never work? None of them work because the concept is a con - it's the confidence man's dream, jam packed with hype and hypocrisy.
The only people that will be making money are the list brokers selling the mailing list - and the course writers and seminar creators. If it was such a good deal, why wouldn't they join a MLM company? The mailing list would be free to them. You don't see them giving up a lucrative mailing list business to get into something that doesn't work. They are smart. They get it. And expensive training courses - what a joke. They offer courses that will never work for the gullible and naive - the GRQ crowd.
And I always wondered why none of the people who worked the administrative side of the "business" were not distributors if it was such a great deal. They knew a job was better than the smoke and mirrors, pie in the sky hype used to sell MLM. They knew that only the heavy hitters made any real money.
MLM is the world's biggest scam. I have tried it a couple of times, the last being Herbalife. It has now moved into the Internet to trap people into believing that they can Get Rich Quick. It is going global.
The only way to make big money is to sell distributorships for thousands of dollars or sell seminar tapes and books.
I once went to a seminar given by Herbalife. The president came to speak. We thought we would learn the secret from the horses mouth on how to get the fiasco to work. We couldn't believe how shallow his advice was. It boiled down to "talk to a lot of people". That was his "secret"..
If you do the math, and you are able to sign up lots of people, which is doubtful, you soon run out of people. You get 2, then those 2 get 2, etc. It the old binary progression. Do it 10 times and you are in the thousands. With every progression, the number doubles. 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, 2024,4048,9096. The problem is those people in the beginning of the progression opt-out and gobble up the progression faster than Pac-Man. This is known as the "Drop Out Rate".
So what happens when thousands of people are doing this and with the internet it could be millions. You soon run out of people to talk to. And most people are smart enough to know it's a scam so right away you lose a huge segment of potential prospects.
Think about it.
In fact, finally, the numbers will exceed the entire world's population. It is a total dream world, a fantasy, completely out of touch with reality. It always looks good on paper, but none of the "heavy hitters" want to talk about drop-out rates.
Hey! What looks good in a spreadsheet, doesn't translate to reality.
The fact is that only the people who set up the program make money. The next level is all those scam artists that sell and give seminars on how to succeed in MLM. None of the schemes work because the concept is fatally flawed.
Why would anyone with a brain pay $30 for an herbal shampoo that they can buy at the local supermarket for $1, maybe $2 or $3 at the most. The same with pomegranate juice and Noni juice and all the other miracle juices, algae, and other strange things, even flower pollen.
Are you kidding me?
Get real.
Next, you will read all the anecdotal claims that the product will cure cancer and all sorts of other maladies. This is just another form of fraud. Where are the scientific double and triple blind studies? There ain't any. Sorry.
Listen! Don't forget this. Ask about the drop-out rate. Yes, the drop out rate.
Over 99% of the people who sign up will drop out after a few months or less. So even if you sign up a few people, they will be gone in months, if not weeks, when they find out how many people they have to talk to for just one distributor.
And your friends, co-workers, and relatives will not like you badgering them to join and will avoid you at all costs.
And most of the people who sign up are down-and-out desperate, who can ill afford to waste their money and who may be liable to criminal prosecution for promoting unregistered securities. And that's just in the USA. Foreign companies like Tiens leave you no recourse to any real legal remedies or enforcement.
And do you really know what's in this stuff? Of course not, it's jjust some con artist's word. For all you know, it could be like the tainted dog and cat food from China. It's not regulated. There is never any USP seal on it (United States Pharmacpeia).
Most of these programs die eventually leaving the suckers who signed up holding the bag. I had them die on me and not knowing any better, signed up for the latest MLM scam. After several attempts, I finally came to realize that it was all just a scam - some people became almost like religious zealots when they talked about their program that was going to make everyone rich and quick too. I lost a good friend when he believed my wild claims, put down $3,000 and lost it all.
The "industry" is full of disingenuous people whose mantra is "Fake it 'til you make it". Doesn't work. More fraud. They will give you testimonials of people who have made money, but they are liars and what they say cannot be proven. If it's so great why is there so much hype?
Here is a trick your upline will employ to get reluctant prospects to sign up. They will tell Ms. Reluctant that they will put some people under her and they take Mr. Hopeful who has already become a distributor and paid the fee and stick him under Ms. Reluctant which forces Ms. Reluctant to either buy in or lose the distributor. This is what happened to me in Herbalife. I was Mr. Hopeful. I thought I was signing up under a successful guy at the top known as a "heavy hitter", but I soon found out I had been scammed. Without telling me, he put me under Ms. Reluctant to force Ms. Reluctant to become a distributor. I did not like my new sponsor and after spending thousands on mailings, I finally dropped out. This is known as "stacking" and is supposedly illegal but it happens all the time.
Listen! My upline in Herbalife made more money selling a sales pamphlet than they did working their MLM business. We mailed out thousands of these pamphlets that we bought from our sponsor for a dime and he probably had them printed for a penny or less. He sold so many of them he had to set up a warehouse to hold and ship them.
Now, it's all done on the Internet via e-mail. But instead of mailing booklets, you get a Web site and collect e-mail addresses. But a fraud is still a fraud no matter what the media is that promotes it.
This was right before the Internet became popular and I was buying mailing lists through mailing list brokers and mailing thousands of booklets with not much success. I was lucky if 1% of 1% signed up as distributors. And they dropped out faster than I could add new ones.. Pretty soon, you run out of quality people to mail to. The internet makes this even worse, but they have to be more careful, but the spam continues to explode.
Check out this Web site: http://www.vandruff.com/mlm_faq.html… - for more facts, not hype about MLM and what a world-wide fraud it is.
I will probably get lots of MLMers who will villify me for trashing MLM, but I've been there and done it and I know first hand what a fraudulent scam it is that can destroy your life, drain you wallet and ruin your friendships.
Kindest Personal Regards,
Walt Brown
Site Build It Certified Webmaster
http://results.sitesell.com/waltera1.html
walter@capecod-beaches.com/
wab@theworld.com
P.S. Remember, there are no get rich quick schemes that work. If there were, the entire world would be rich in an instant, or as they say, a New York minute. I used to be gullible and naive and fell for some of them - no more. Be a sceptic. Be a doubting Thomas. Why are there thousands of GRQ schemes, because they work! Thousands of Gullible people believe that there is such a thing as GRQ and con artists take advantage of that. Demand proof, bank statements, tax returns, not hype.
P.P.S. Jeekers! You gotta remember - if it sounds too good to be true, it is.
P.P.P.S. Find some other way to make money. Have you tried e-bay? Get this book - How to Buy, Sell & Profit on eBay by Adam Ginsberg. Get this one too - Don't Get Burned on eBay by Shauna Wright. Another good one is: Three Weeks to eBay Profits by Skp McGrath. It cost nothing to sign up and find out about it. There are lots of tutorials where you can learn from the experts and most of it is free. Try getting free tutorials and expert advice from the so-called MLM gurus - free stuff would ruin their con.
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Does any one know of a MLM lead site with people raising their hand interested in your product?
29.October, 2008
I can help. Just send me a message.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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Is mlm network marketing lead a scam?
27.October, 2008
I am ready to join Internet MLM marketing lead program, and create my own list, but is this a Scam?, how much is going to cost me?, what kind of leads am I going to get ?, I heard that from 1000 sign ups only 2 are good prospects, is that true?
Any experience?
Some of my searches send me to consider this article
http://mlmnetworkmarketinglead.yrnot.com/
But I am still with more questions about how this system really works.
You can make this work. The problem is that a MLM runs out of prospects as you go 9-people deep into the prospecting. Each of the 9 hires 9 so the number gets exponential. You run out of possible recruits..
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All the quality leads are taken by the top people in MLM. Try some guerilla marketing tactics. Find out where the people you want spend their time on the internet, and go after them there.
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how do you create or start a mlm lead generator business?
23.October, 2008
The first thing you need to do is get educated on marketing and sales. The best thing to do is give away free information, then offer a reasonably priced information book.
If they buy the book, you know you have an interested lead and is more likely to buy into your opportunity
Here is a link for a great 10 day boot camp of exactly what I am talking about
http://vrsenergy.magneticsponsoringonline.com
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What government agency regulates Insurance lead MLM companies such as NAA (National Agents Alliance)??
21.October, 2008
I wish to write to the proper authorities regarding some serious issues with this company. Besides my US Senator, who regulates MLM businesses such as this?
National Agent's Alliance is a Managing General Agency in the Life and Health Insurance industry. As such, all their activities are regulated by the state Insurance Commissioners in each and every State where they do business.
Your best bet is to do an Internet search of your state's offices to find the email or physical address of your Commissioner and start there. In addition, if you know of specific wrongdoing by NAA, you can do the same search in their home state.
Most states Commissioners of Insurance are very aggressive in investigating complaints. Make sure you have all the facts (Dates, specific complaints, who was hurt or damaged by the conduct of the NAA, what the economic loss was, and how you are involved.)
Do not make frivolous unsubstantiated charges or comments of a general nature. Make it specific and to the point. If the conduct was damaging to others, make sure you have a "Standing" to make a claim.
You might wish to consult an attorney who specializes in insurance issues, but that usually isn't necessary.
Good Luck,
Grampy
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Is there a way to do MLM successfully, without contacting friends/acquaintances, or telemarketing strangers?
19.October, 2008
I don't want to distribute "get rich" flyers in letterboxes, approach strangers in supermarkets or anywhere else, or set myself up as an expert on something I don't know anything about. Neither do I want to buy MLM leads. I want to successfully market a good product and recruit only those who are qualified to do the same. Any ideas please ?
1st develop a customer and client base so u have a positive cash flow base every month and quarter. read Guerrilla Marketing.
understand there are 2 types of people - ones u know and ones u don't. if u have a product that gets u results ask 'who do u know that this may help cause it helped me do this'. good client development produces folks who believe in the products and say so. those folks develop their own client base expanding ur group locally and nationally. learn to ask eliminating question to get rid of riffraff. work as u had a solid business and u'll succeed.
touch base and i'll get u some reference sites that avoid me know.
remember in a job u make the other boss wealthy, in this stituation u are the boss.
most folks don't understand networking is in every company they just call it something else.
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WHY DO PEOPLE BUY LEADS or MLM LEADS or EMAIL LEADS?
17.October, 2008
Hi guys i have a some questions about leads and i hope you guys can help me.
1. Why do people buy leads?
2. What are the kinds of leads? (can u please give me some
examples).
3. What are the Highest price for Leads?And the Lowest
Price For Leads?
4. What do you call the people that are selling all kinds of
Leads?
5. Can you earn great amount of money if you sell some
Leads?
Example:
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Name Phone Email Company
john 432-612-0000 john@john.com Amway
meg 432-612-0001 meg@meg.com Amway
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Is this consider as Leads?Why?Can this be sold? (if yes) where can it be sold?
Thank you
1- People buy leads to allow them to contact their TARGETED market.
An accounting practice might want to contact only new business owners to sell their services to them. A landscaping company may want to contact families earning $200,000 and up with both couples working (hence no time for their lawn upkeep and landscaping).
These businesses understand that they don't need to contact everyone — e.g. why will a landscaping company contact those in trailer homes which do not have lawns and don't have the resources to pay for such services?
2. Leads can be varied. They can provide demographic information — name, contact information, age, income, origin, etc. For businesses, leads can come with information on how much they spend for particular services (e.g. spends $100,000 and up in IT services). Or it can simply be the name and email address of the person
It depends how the lead was collected and what its purpose is
3. Leads are sold per thousand. Some leads cost $350 per thousand while some costs $75 per thousand
4. Listbrokers. You can find examples of list brokers in DirectMag.com http://directmag.com/resourcecenter/listfinder/
5. Customer databases (e.g. Leads) are a significant revenue source of companies. Catalogs for example, supplement their income by selling their customer information — hence if you buy from one, you can expect to receive catalogs from other retailers. Magazines also sell their subscriber information.
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mlm leads website www.leadbakery.biz?
15.October, 2008
try out leads from leadbakery.biz its very good.
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What is a MLM email lead, What does MLM stand for?
13.October, 2008
I was looking for email leads for my boss and I keep coming across "MLM". What does MLM mean and is there anything I should know about MLM?
Multi-Level Marketing
The Shocking Truth - 7 Myths of MLM Email Leads
There are 7 Myths about mlm email leads and the companies that provide these services that you should be aware of and avoid when choosing a lead company.
Anyone starting a Multi-Level Marketing business or any type of home business will need a lead company to provide targeted prospects for your business. One thing you need to ask yourself is how they generate the leads. Good companies will generate potential contacts through a range of methods.
Today, lead generating companies use the internet along with telemarketing, ad campaigns, and direct mail campaigns. They will then use a software program to provide you with business opportunity leads that fit your business.
I personally have been in network marketing business for over 10 years and know how deep the shark infested waters of bad lead companies that over promise and under deliver. There are 7 Myths about mlm email leads and the companies that provide these services that you should be aware of and avoid when choosing a lead company.
Myth 1 "We will give you 50 FREE Leads to try out with no obligation"
Many companies will offer you free leads to try out their service. First, the leads that you get are not very good, responsive, and often more than 72 hours old which means the leads are not "hot but "cold". Secondly, and more importantly, when you sign up to get the free leads, you just became a lead.
Myth 2 "We generate our own leads"
This is false. 90% of lead companies do not generate their own leads but purchase their own. They in turn resell them to you. These leads have been "turned" so to speak anywhere from 5-10 times. Your response rate will be significantly lower because of this important factor. I have more information on who DOESNT practice this technique here:
MLM Email Leads
Myth 3 "Our leads are Targeted Leads to your home business specialty"
One of the ways to "capture" a lead is to put up what we consider a "pop-up" window on a website that might be asking you if you want more information on a "credit card offer". Then that company turns to any lead company and sells it. Now if you have a home business and looking for people who are interested in starting a home business, you go to Lead Company A and buy some mlm email leads. You will get leads from people who wanted information on credit card offers, not a home business. Is that targeted? What are your chances of converting a sale? Slim to none.
Myth 4 "Our Leads are 24 Hours old or less and "fresh".
90% of leads sold are over 24 hours old if that fresh. The reason is modern technology, detailed work, time spent to gather the leads captured, and to upload them to you through an excel spreadsheet or other form of communication takes time. Make sure you read all the details about how the company obtained the mlm email lead in the first place.
Myth 5 "Leads were not offered an incentive".
Lead companies will tell you this so that you don’t think the lead was offered any payment or free gift for filling out a survey. Most lead companies fail to disclose this. Make sure you do the research and ask questions of the company before you purchase the leads.
Myth 6 "Leads are Company Specific"
Many lead companies indicate to consumers that their mlm email leads are company specific. For example a website has a "popup" window if someone is interested in a earning money part time and they turn around and sell you the leads because they are interested in SFI (Six Figure Marketing) a popular home business opportunity on the internet. Does that mean its company specific? No where does it say that person who filled out the form and became a lead they were interested in that specific company.
Myth 7 "Millions of people are looking for a home business"
There are not millions of people looking for a home business. There are thousands everyday but not millions. If a lead company tells you that….they are stretching the truth just a bit.
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